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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Not Over Yet</title>
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		<title>By: Fortuna</title>
		<link>http://gnosiscafe.com/gcblog/2007/11/07/its-not-over-yet/#comment-7277</link>
		<dc:creator>Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear moderator -

I realise my comments would be much more pertinent on the previous post (if at all!).

Blessings,

Fortuna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear moderator -</p>
<p>I realise my comments would be much more pertinent on the previous post (if at all!).</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Fortuna</p>
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		<title>By: Fortuna</title>
		<link>http://gnosiscafe.com/gcblog/2007/11/07/its-not-over-yet/#comment-7276</link>
		<dc:creator>Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone, and happy Diwali -

This is not a complaint, but an observation about Reclaiming:  Even in the Netherlands and other parts of Northern Europe, where the community is relatively new, these issues are occuring.  The SCL model referred to seems to be - well, the model.  One that is resented.  One that can at this point, pretty much tip over the organisation of European Witch Camps... 

Yes, it's disheartening to see the community struggle.  To see loss and pain and hurt feelings and lack of transparency.

But I think those things happen to people in any community, right?   And sadly, one person - the Single Leader - tends to be the one investing enormous amounts of time and energy into creating the community.  Often imperfectly, because we are human after all - with our own personality and ego structures, which would be driving each other crazy if  it was just a cocktail party we were attending, and not a manifestation of magic and belief.  

This stuff is just not easy.  And I cannot imagine how 'dissed' an elder -   someone who has devoted decades, often, to building this communal spiritual/practical space -   might feel.

Makes me want to be a semi-solitary, non-political Witch...and that doesn't help anybody, does it?

With my 2 euro cents worth, which should be approaching something like 3 cents U.S. today,

And much hope and love,

Fortuna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone, and happy Diwali -</p>
<p>This is not a complaint, but an observation about Reclaiming:  Even in the Netherlands and other parts of Northern Europe, where the community is relatively new, these issues are occuring.  The SCL model referred to seems to be - well, the model.  One that is resented.  One that can at this point, pretty much tip over the organisation of European Witch Camps&#8230; </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s disheartening to see the community struggle.  To see loss and pain and hurt feelings and lack of transparency.</p>
<p>But I think those things happen to people in any community, right?   And sadly, one person - the Single Leader - tends to be the one investing enormous amounts of time and energy into creating the community.  Often imperfectly, because we are human after all - with our own personality and ego structures, which would be driving each other crazy if  it was just a cocktail party we were attending, and not a manifestation of magic and belief.  </p>
<p>This stuff is just not easy.  And I cannot imagine how &#8216;dissed&#8217; an elder -   someone who has devoted decades, often, to building this communal spiritual/practical space -   might feel.</p>
<p>Makes me want to be a semi-solitary, non-political Witch&#8230;and that doesn&#8217;t help anybody, does it?</p>
<p>With my 2 euro cents worth, which should be approaching something like 3 cents U.S. today,</p>
<p>And much hope and love,</p>
<p>Fortuna</p>
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		<title>By: Madelon</title>
		<link>http://gnosiscafe.com/gcblog/2007/11/07/its-not-over-yet/#comment-7273</link>
		<dc:creator>Madelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne-

Yes, everyone I know has been diving deep this year, too. I had one hell of a year.

Gardening, composting, and walking the dog are my primary magical acts. I love this idea of burying the crap.

I admire how you are so honest about what is happening in your community. I don't know the specifics, but I am saddened to say that we here in the Midwest have seen our share of serious dysfunction, too.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne-</p>
<p>Yes, everyone I know has been diving deep this year, too. I had one hell of a year.</p>
<p>Gardening, composting, and walking the dog are my primary magical acts. I love this idea of burying the crap.</p>
<p>I admire how you are so honest about what is happening in your community. I don&#8217;t know the specifics, but I am saddened to say that we here in the Midwest have seen our share of serious dysfunction, too.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Earth magic is potent and always surprising. I love gardening as a magical act. Thanks for your post, Sia. Always good to hear from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Earth magic is potent and always surprising. I love gardening as a magical act. Thanks for your post, Sia. Always good to hear from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sia</title>
		<link>http://gnosiscafe.com/gcblog/2007/11/07/its-not-over-yet/#comment-7266</link>
		<dc:creator>Sia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lovely suggestion. Thank you :-) I will do just that. 

Friday is also the start of Diwali, one of my favorite festivals, especially the bit where they celebrate Dog. 

Here's to Lakshmi as we celebrate prosperity and beauty, and to Ganesh as we travel and write, and to Crow and Cow, as well for the lessons they hold. 

as always, 

Sia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely suggestion. Thank you :-) I will do just that. </p>
<p>Friday is also the start of Diwali, one of my favorite festivals, especially the bit where they celebrate Dog. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to Lakshmi as we celebrate prosperity and beauty, and to Ganesh as we travel and write, and to Crow and Cow, as well for the lessons they hold. </p>
<p>as always, </p>
<p>Sia</p>
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		<title>By: Livia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of burying items in the ground to see what goes into the Earth Mother and what grows anew in the spring.  Almost all of my spellwork, and my greenwork, involves placing ritual items in the ground.  I figure that I should do my part and then let Earth Mama do the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of burying items in the ground to see what goes into the Earth Mother and what grows anew in the spring.  Almost all of my spellwork, and my greenwork, involves placing ritual items in the ground.  I figure that I should do my part and then let Earth Mama do the rest.</p>
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